Trump incontra Ma. Tra pari ci si intende. 1mln posti di lavoro negli Usa.

Giuseppe Sandro Mela.

2017-01-10.

È cambiata un’epoca, e pochi riescono ad avere il coraggio di metterne in luce alcuni degli aspetti fondamentali.

Non ancora entrato in carica, Mr Trump inizia a preoccuparsi attivamente di ciò che dovrebbe essere uno dei compiti primari di un capo dello stato: far nascere le condizioni che consentano la generazione di nuovi posti di lavoro nel comparto produttivo. Dare in altri termini un lavoro dignitoso ai propri Cittadini Elettori.

Di ieri la notizia che Toyota investirà negli Stati Uniti 10 miliardi di dollari per potenziare la sua produzione di automobili negli Stati Uniti.

Di oggi l’abboccamento con Mr Ma, executive chairman del Gruppo Alibaba.

«Jack Ma, the executive chairman of Alibaba Group, pledged to create one million US jobs over five years by supporting small businesses».

*

«We think that China and US relationship should be strengthened, should be more friendly»

*

«Il meeting a sorpresa tra il presidente eletto Donald Trump e Jack Ma, il genio del commercio che inventò Alibaba, rischia davvero di essere quello che gli americani chiamano “Game Change”: qualcosa, cioè, che cambia le regole del gioco»

*

«E di tutto il mondo»

*

«Avviso ai naviganti …. Incontrando Jack Ma, Mister Trump ha ricevuto non solo l’imprenditore …. Jack Ma è l’ex professore di Hangzhou che oggi è il secondo uomo più ricco della Cina, 27 miliardi di dollari …. Ma è soprattutto l’imprenditore che à anche il miglior amico di Xi Jinping, il segretario del partito comunista nonché presidente della Repubblica popolare, l’uomo più potente dai tempi di Mao Zedong.»

*

«Mica è un caso che il faccia a faccia finisca in prima pagina sul Global Times, il giornale in inglese espressione del partito: “Trump incontra Jack Ma”. »

* * * * * * *

Per otto anni il Presidente degli Stati Uniti è stato l’apostolo della degenerazione contro natura: prima si accettino i canoni omosessuali e quindi si parli di rapporti politici ed economici.

Aiuti economici americani ovvero delle Nazioni Unite? Prima si diventi omosessuali, poi si vedrà.

Cnn. Obama lectures Kenyan president on gay rights

Shoebat. Watch President Of Kenya Telling Obama: You Will Not Impose The ‘Gay Rights’ Agenda In Kenya.

Newsweek. Kenyan Leaders Respond to Obama’s Support for LGBT Rights

*

Il nuovo Presidente-eletto ha una visione totalmente opposta.

Si parli di economia. Trattiamo e raggiungiamo accordi di comune gradimento: poi voi fatevi fatti vostri e noi i nostri.

Si parli di lavoro: la prima esigenza fondamentale del Cittadino Elettore è quella di poter trovare un lavoro con cui poter mantenere dignitosamente la propria famiglia. La persona disoccupata o sottooccupata è destinata a diventare una schiava di chi le elargisca qualcosa.

Il problema non è quello di dare assistenza sanitaria statale ai poveri: è invece quello di dare lavoro ai poveri e lasciare arricchire chi prima fosse stato indigente.

*

Ci si pensi bene.

---

→ China Org. 2017-01-10. Alibaba’s Jack Ma talks with Donald Trump about E-commerce

Jack Ma, the executive chairman of Alibaba Group, pledged to create one million US jobs over five years by supporting small businesses. He met with US President-elect Donald Trump for about an hour at the Trump Tower in New York on Monday. “We think that China and US relationship should be strengthened, should be more friendly,” Ma told media in an interview after the meeting. Trump said the two men had “a great meeting” and they are going to “do great things”.

---

→ Repubblica. 2017-01-10. Trump incontra mr. Alibaba: è svolta nei rapporti Usa-Cina

Faccia a faccia tra il presidente americano eletto e Jack Ma, fondatore del colosso dell’e-commerce. Grande attenzione mediatica a Pechino e dintorni, dove si dice: sotto la coltre dura, una collaborazione è possibile. Anche perché unire le forze, promette l’imprenditore orientale, darebbe 1 milione di posti di lavoro agli Usa.

*

PECHINO – La terza guerra mondiale può attendere. Il miliardario cinese più famoso del mondo incontra il miliardario “born in the USA” che l’America ha scelto per guidare, appunto, il mondo: ed è amore al primo sguardo. Il meeting a sorpresa tra il presidente eletto Donald Trump e Jack Ma, il genio del commercio che inventò Alibaba, rischia davvero di essere quello che gli americani chiamano “Game Change”: qualcosa, cioè, che cambia le regole del gioco. E di tutto il mondo.
Avviso ai naviganti, e non solo di Internet. Incontrando Jack Ma, Mister Trump ha ricevuto non solo l’imprenditore che con Alibaba ha costruito in Oriente la Grande Muraglia per resistere all’assalto di Amazon nell’unico commercio che oggi conta: cioè l’e-commerce, il business via Internet. Jack Ma è l’ex professore di Hangzhou che oggi è il secondo uomo più ricco della Cina, 27 miliardi di dollari giura la classifica di Forbes. Ma è soprattutto l’imprenditore che à anche il miglior amico di Xi Jinping, il segretario del partito comunista nonché presidente della Repubblica popolare, l’uomo più potente dai tempi di Mao Zedong. Mica è un caso che il faccia a faccia finisca in prima pagina sul Global Times, il giornale in inglese espressione del partito: “Trump incontra Jack Ma”. E occhio alla lettura. Il meeting dimostra che Trump, dice il foglio, malgrado “l’atteggiamento duro nei confronti della Cina che allunga ombre sui rapporti con gli Usa, ha lasciato aperta una porta per una collaborazione basata sui fatti”. E che fatti: il piccolo grande Jack ha spiegato che l’e-commerce condiviso può creare un milione di posti di lavoro indovinate dove? In America.
Ok, ok: non è difficile per noi italiani riandare con la memoria al milione dei posti di lavori promessi, inutilmente, da un altro miliardario e populista, che quantomeno in questa storia merita la palma di illustre precedente, Silvio Berlusconi. Ma così (ri)và il mondo. Davanti alle telecamere, l’altra sera, The Donald e The Jack sembravano due vecchi amici. Le accuse del presidente eletto alla Cina? Nelle stesse ore, Mister Trump ha nominato consigliere della Casa Bianca, cioè la prossima casa sua, Jared Kushner, il marito di sua figlia Ivanka. E altro che conflitto di interessi. Il New York Times ha ricordato che il First Genero nei giorni scorsi aveva cercato di sedurre per affari immobiliari, in un pranzo con tanto di Chateau Lafite Rothschild, cioè bottiglie da oltre 3mila dollari, nientemeno che Wu Xiahoui, il potentissimo cinese così invischiato nel regime rosso da aver sposato la nipote di Deng Xiaoping, e così ricco da comprarsi il Waldorf – Astoria, il grand hotel di New York dove svernavano i presidenti.

Guerra a parole, dunque, e intrallazzi sotto banco. Subito dopo l’elezione di Trump, lo stesso Jack Ma aveva tuonato: sarebbe un disastro se America e Cina non lavorassero insieme. Il tycoon aveva appena conquistato Washington giurando guerra a quella Pechino che, diceva, ruba posti di lavoro e manipola la moneta. E pensate che shock per Jack Ma, con l’impero quotato a Wall Street, il cinese più di casa alla Casa Bianca di Obama. Allarme, si spera, passato. La terza guerra mondiale può attendere. Ringraziando Alibaba, certo: e magari anche qualche ladrone.

---

→ Cnbc. 2017-01-10. Here’s the really brilliant thing about Trump’s meeting with Alibaba’s Jack Ma

President-elect Donald Trump‘s meeting with Alibaba founder and executive chairman Jack Ma on Monday was brilliant — but not for the obvious reason of making him look good for being part of a conversation about creating 1 million jobs. What’s really smart about it is that puts China on its heels.

Trump and Beijing have been engaged in a back-and-forth rattling of sabers from the minute Trump won the election. Remember that Trump took a congratulatory call from Taiwan’s president and on the same day Trump met with Ma, a state-run Chinese tabloid warned that China would “take revenge” if Trump backed out of the one-China policy.

Enter Ma, who represents something much more dangerous to China than Taiwan ever could: An idea. In this case, the idea of individualism. And the fact that Ma and Trump discussed the even more individualistic topic of global small business entrepreneurship puts an exclamation point on it all.

Ma, Alibaba, and the Chinese government definitely have one of those “it’s complicated” kind of relationships. The company became a worldwide powerhouse in large part due to the way Ma deftly handled the Chinese government. To please shareholders, Ma and Alibaba must not look like they’re running afoul of Beijing in any meaningful way. But to please customers, the company has to make sure it provides as open a market as possible to exchange goods and services. It’s not easy, and Alibaba’s stock price has, as a result, had its volatile ups and downs during the less than two-and-a-half years since its IPO.

From China’s perspective, Alibaba and Ma may be something of a necessary evil. No, they’re not the kind of large corporation and boss made up of very easily-defined parts that are easier to control. But the company is essential to developing China’s consumer market. The new push by Alibaba to move into the nation’s rural areas, where half the population still lives, is an aggressive push to modernize the country overall. And that’s something the government has been trying to do with only mixed success for almost 70 years.

China’s government and Alibaba need each other. But like all dependent relationships, there’s often at least one partner who would like a little more freedom. And Ma might have found a new ally Monday that could provide him and Alibaba with new options to wriggle a bit away from Beijing’s ability to shoot them down at any time.

The Chinese government has long abandoned the idea of Communism, embracing profit-making and even some levels of economic inequality. But what China has not abandoned — from its one-child policy to its non-democratic leadership selection process — is its position on personal liberty and individuality.

But Ma, who is already more famous and recognizable than the last four or five Chinese premiers combined, is bucking that trend. He seems to want to be a global business leader and personality like Warren Buffett or Steve Jobs was. His only hope to do that is to prove he transcends the power or perceived power of the government in Beijing. And he went a long way toward doing that Monday with his summit-like meeting with Trump. It’s not exactly like a significant other deciding to “see other people” — but it’s close.

The threat to China’s government doesn’t come so much from the number of jobs an Alibaba deal with the U.S. will create or how much money in America the company will invest. The danger comes from the fact that Ma’s individualism, and his current support for individualistic small businesses, could catch on in China in a big way. What the leaders in Beijing must be fearing more than anything else is hundreds of millions of Chinese children saying: “If Jack Ma can do it, why can’t I?”

Of course, you don’t have to be a totalitarian government to fear and covet the power and profits earned by a private sector superstar. At any time, politicians can target very successful business leaders even in the most democratic countries and find a way to tax, regulate, or even prosecute Icarus-like superstars who fly a little too close to the sun. The smart ones, like Buffett, Jobs, and the CEO/founders of Google and Facebook, find a way to make deals and partnerships with the politicians to gain some level of immunity.

Ma has probably gone as far as he can partnering solely with Chinese politicians and bureaucrats in that regard. As he himself has said on a number of occasions, there’s only so far China can go economically with a central planning government trying to control too much. For Beijing, not only is that idea a danger but the fact that the person promoting it is becoming so well-known makes it much worse.

On Trump’s side of things, it’s not clear whether his meeting with Ma was part of an effort to tweak China or just get another one of those job creating photo ops he loves so much. But thanks to his mostly brilliantly-crafted media image, Ma is becoming the face of Chinese business more than any politician ever could. And if Trump’s true goal is to improve and level economic dealings between America and China, a close relationship with Ma could be the most peaceful and least economically volatile way to make it happen.

---

→ Bbc. 2017-01-10. Donald Trump has ‘great meeting’ with Alibaba boss Jack Ma

US President-elect Donald Trump has held what he said was a “great meeting” in New York with Jack Ma, chairman of the e-commerce site Alibaba.

After the meeting Mr Ma said that both had agreed that US-China relations “should be strengthened, should be more friendly and do better”.

Mr Ma said he would help US businesses create a million new jobs by using his website to sell to China.

During his campaign Mr Trump threatened to place tariffs on Chinese imports.

“Jack and I are going to do some great things,” Mr Trump told reporters gathering in the Trump Tower lobby as the two emerged from the lift together.

Calling the future US president “smart” and “open-minded”, Mr Ma described his company’s plan to attract one million small US businesses to its platform in order to sell goods to Chinese consumers.

Company spokesman Bob Christie said that one million new jobs will be created over the next five years as small American businesses hire new employees who will be tasked with interacting with Alibaba.

Mr Ma, who is one of the richest people in China, specifically said that farmers and small clothing makers in the US Midwest should use the Alibaba online marketplace to reach Chinese consumers.

It is estimated that up to 80% of Chinese online purchases are made on the Alibaba platform.

The New York real estate mogul has said that 45% import taxes could be placed on Chinese goods and would come in response to currency manipulation and illegal subsidies by the world’s second largest economy.

He has been highly critical of Chinese trade practices, and has appointed noted China critics to key economic cabinet positions in the White House.

Market researchers fear that punitive tariffs would lead to a retaliatory response from China, triggering a trade war.

---

→ Bloomberg. 2017-01-10. Alibaba’s Ma Meets With Trump to Talk About Creating Jobs.

– Meeting comes amid tensions between China and president-elect

– Chinese e-commerce giant would suffer under higher tariffs

*

Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. Chairman Jack Ma met with Donald Trump on Monday to discuss how the online retailer could help create 1 million new U.S. jobs, keying in on one of the president-elect’s chief concerns amid fraught relations between China and the incoming administration.

The Chinese e-commerce giant said the positions would be generated through Alibaba adding 1 million small and medium-sized U.S. businesses to its platforms, estimating that each one will hire a new person as a result of the added commerce.

Several other top executives have met with Trump in his New York headquarters promising to create U.S. jobs. But Ma’s 40-minute sit-down comes after Trump has called for high tariffs on trade with China, accused the country of stealing jobs from Americans and incited political controversy by reaching out to Taiwan. Alibaba was also recently put back on the U.S. “Notorious Markets” list, with its Taobao website cited as a haven for fake merchandise, suggesting it hasn’t done enough to fight counterfeits. Alibaba said at the time its new designation could have been influenced by politics.

Still, Alibaba needs to cultivate a positive working relationship with Trump as it aims to implement its international expansion plans. Ma’s discussion fits into Alibaba’s long-stated goal of bringing foreign goods to Chinese consumers. Ma has also said he wants the company to derive half of its revenue from outside China, which would to offset any slowdowns at home.

Alibaba shares rose 0.9 percent to $94.72 at the close in New York. The stock gained 8 percent last year.

Alibaba has a significant part of its business tied to trade in the U.S., giving it a strong incentive to avoid a situation in which Trump puts his campaign rhetoric into practice. Higher tariffs would depress demand for the AliExpress site, where Chinese retailers sell to U.S. consumers. Any ensuing trade disputes could hurt sales on Alibaba’s Tmall platform, through which U.S. and international brands sell to Chinese consumers. Last year, 7,000 U.S. brands on Alibaba’s platforms made sales worth $15 billion to Chinese consumers, according to the company.

“Jack and I are going to do some great things together,” Trump said in the lobby of the Trump Tower in New York. After the meeting, Alibaba tweeted that it “wants to create U.S. jobs by helping U.S. small businesses and farmers sell to China’s 300 million-strong middle class.”

U.S. produce sold on Alibaba’s platforms include Pacific Northwest cherries, Washington State apples, and Alaskan seafood.

Alibaba on Tuesday said it is leading a $2.6 billion bid to take department store operator Intime Retail Group Co. private, as its seeks to deepen its integration with brick-and-mortar stores in China. Alibaba has bought or invested in a number of physical retail chains in the country as it seeks growth beyond its traditional Internet business.

Trump’s meeting with Ma comes just a few weeks after he met with SoftBank Group Corp. Chief Executive Officer Masayoshi Son. In that meeting, Trump took credit for a previously announced investment by SoftBank and 50,000 jobs that fund would help create in the U.S.

Several other companies — from IBM to Ford Motor Co. — have also unveiled plans to create jobs in the country since Trump’s election, though some of the plans had been in the works before the election was decided.