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Trump. White House ed Islam. Fine della anorchidia.

Giuseppe Sandro Mela.

2017-01-28.

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Dopo otto anni di ostentata anorchidia la situazione della White House inizia a normalizzarsi e le cellule di Leyding stanno rifacendo capolino.

Il presidente Donald Trump affronta il tema del terrorismo islamico con il buon senso di quanti non traggano illeciti guadagni dalla collusione con i terroristi e con i fondamentalisti islamici.

Sempre più disperati i liberals democratici, che giorno dopo giorno vedono demolite le fonti di finanziamento pubblico per otto anni passati direttamente nelle loro tasche.

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«Quando tagliano la testa dei nostri e di altri, solo perché sono cristiani in Medio Oriente, quando lo Stato Islamico fa cose di cui nessuno ha sentito dai tempi del Medioevo, cosa dovrei pensare del waterboarding? Per quanto mi riguarda, dobbiamo combattere il fuoco con il fuoco»

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«President Donald Trump declared Wednesday he believes torture works as his administration readied a sweeping review of how America conducts the war on terror»

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«It includes possible resumption of banned interrogation methods and reopening CIA-run “black site” prisons outside the United States»

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«Trump said he would wage war against Islamic State militants with the singular goal of keeping the U.S. safe. Asked specifically about the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, Trump cited the extremist group’s atrocities against Christians and others and said: “We have to fight fire with fire.”»

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«Three detainees faced waterboarding. Many developed psychological problems»

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Cerchiamo di fare un qualche ordine mentale.

La lotta al terrorismo, se la si volesse fare sul serio, dovrebbe articolarsi su almeno due grandi linee.

Primo aspetto.

– Individuare gli stati che finanziano le formazioni terroristiche e far cessare tali azioni. La lista dei paesi che finanziano il terrorismo, e poi fanno qualche operazione di facciata per sembrare candidi come neve, è lunga e comprende anche molti stati dell’Unione Europea. Ci sono connivenze e fiancheggiamenti di non poco rilievo. Poi, con una fredda ipocrisia i governanti che hanno finanziato il terrorismo vanno a piangere alle esequie dei loro concittadini assassinati.

– In altri termini, il problema è squisitamente politico e la sua soluzione implica anche grandi costi politici.

– Molti stati occidentali non solo finanziano, ma anche fiancheggiano i terroristi. Basterebbe solo pensare all’inaudita tolleranza nei confronti della criminalità islamica nell’ambito dei paesi dell’Unione Europea, per non parlare poi della tolleranza, per non dire connivenza, della predicazione violenta cui assistiamo nelle moschee europee. Ma sono i Magistrati i più efficienti fiancheggiatori del terrorismo islamico: molte sentenze emesse sembrerebbero essere state prese in paesi fondamentalisti, non occidentali.

– Si deve prendere atto come i partiti socialisti europei siano i mandatari ed i tutori del terrorismo islamico. Sarà impossibile eliminare il terrorismo senza prima aver eliminato i socialisti ideologici. Cosa che verosimilmente dovrebbe attuarsi entro il giugno di questo anno.

Secondo aspetto.

Questo aspetto inerisce il contrasto al terrorismo sul territorio.

– Esso è semplicemente di impossibile risoluzione dal punto di vista militare. Sarebbe impossibile presidiare in forze tutti i punti attaccabili.

– Il problema cardine è quello dell’intelligence. I servizi dovrebbe infiltrare le cellule potenzialmente terroristiche e neutralizzarle solo quando emergessero elementi certi ce stiano passando all’azione. Da questo punto di vista, è essenziale poter ricostruire l’organigramma: interessa sicuramente la piccola manovalanza, ma interessa ancora di più individuare i quadri intermedi.

– Usualmente, da un punto di vista organizzativo, il braccio operativo del terrorismo è organizzato in piccole unità i membri delle quali non conoscono gli altri “colleghi” pari grado. Solo il loro coordinatore conosce il suo diretto superiore, ma non altri. È evidente che dal momento dell’arresto di un sospetto passa un lasso di tempo molto breve senza che l’organizzazione non sia immediatamente allertata, con fuga rapida: interrotto l’anello della catena resta impossibile risalire. Diventa quindi essenziale che l’interrogatorio del fermato sia produttivo e ricco di nomi, cognomi ed indirizzi, ma raccolti nelle primissime ore dall’arresto. La situazione sul campo non ammette perdite di tempo, pena la vanificazione di ogni fatica fatta. Questo è uno degli elementi cardine nel giustificare pienamente l’uso della tortura nel corso degli interrogatori.

La vita di uno può salvare quella di molti.

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Cerchiamo di essere chiari.

Le azioni sono giudicabili in ragione delle circostanze nelle quali si collocano. Atti che in condizioni normali sarebbero abnormi, diventano obbligatori in altre.

La Repubblica romana è durata oltre cinquecento anni perché prevedeva cariche elettive a durata annuale ed un reggimento democratico, ma prevedeva anche la dittatura pro tempore. La dittatura non era la norma, ma l’uso della democrazia in condizioni abnormi sarebbe stata pura follia.

In una guerra, il nemico ti ammazza se non lo uccidi per primo.

Ecco perché in queste circostanza l’uso della tortura è semplicemente legittima difesa.

Che poi i liberals strillino è segno evidente di quanto il Presidente Trump sia nella ragione.

Nota.

L’ultima frase virgolettata riportata suonava così:

«Three detainees faced waterboarding. Many developed psychological problems»

Problemi psicologici a dei terroristi?

Ma scherziamo davvero?

E dei problemi psicologici dei sopravissuti agli attentati ai liberals non interessa proprio nulla? E dei morti, nessun rispetto?

Oppure, meglio, i liberals ci godono da buoni degenerati?


Rai News. 2017-01-26. Trump parte dal muro con il Messico. Ed elogia la tortura: Il Waterboarding? Funziona, assolutamente.

Il Presidente ha giustificato il ricorso a questi metodi puntando il dito contro la brutalità dello Stato Islamico. “Quando tagliano la testa dei nostri e di altri, solo perché sono cristiani in Medio Oriente, quando lo Stato Islamico fa cose di cui nessuno ha sentito dai tempi del Medioevo, cosa dovrei pensare del waterboarding? Per quanto mi riguarda, dobbiamo combattere il fuoco con il fuoco”.

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Solo da pochi giorni è entrato nella sala dei bottoni e già lascia il segno nella politica e nell’economia degli Stati Uniti. Donald Trump avanza a grandi passi, con decisioni forti e potenzialmente molto controverse che scatenano reazioni. E fanno sfondare a Wall Street il muro dei 20mila punti dell’indice Dow Jones. Il muro promesso Come promesso, Donald Trump ha firmato l’ordine esecutivo per dare il via alla costruzione del muro con il Messico. Firmato anche un secondo ordine esecutivo, che prevede più poteri delle autorità nei confronti degli immigrati irregolari. “Abbiamo parlato di questo sin dall’inizio”, ha detto il presidente mentre firmava. Il primo decreto prevede “la costruzione di un muro lungo il confine” con il Messico, “l’assunzione di altri agenti per pattugliare il confine”, “più spazi per la detenzione di immigrati irregolari lungo il confine con il Messico”, “l’eliminazione del rilascio subito dopo la cattura, e “la priorità per le azioni penali”.

Peña Nieto: Messico non pagherà muro di Trump Il Messico non pagherà il muro che Donald Trump intende costruire lungo la frontiera fra Stati Uniti e Messico. Lo ha detto il presidente messicano, Enrique Peña Nieto, esprimendo rammarico e disapprovazione per la decisione del nuovo presidente Usa di ordinare la costruzione del muro stesso. “Mi rammarico e disapprovo la decisione degli Stati Uniti di continuare la costruzione di un muro che da anni, anziché unirci, ci divide. Il Messico non crede nei muri. L’ho già detto molte volte, il Messico non pagherà nessun muro”, ha detto Pena Nieto in un messaggio trasmesso in televisione, aggiungendo di avere ordinato al ministero degli Esteri di rafforzare le misure a tutela dei messicani che si trovano negli Stati Uniti. Il Presidente riesuma il waterboarding: “La tortura? Funziona” Donald Trump è convinto che “la tortura assolutamente funzioni” nella lotta al terrorismo. E’ quanto ha affermato il presidente americano in un’intervista all’Abc news dopo che la stampa americana ha pubblicato una serie di bozze di nuovi ordini esecutivi sulla riapertura delle prigioni segrete della Cia e la ripresa dei cosidetti metodi di interrogatorio duro, a partire dal famigerato waterboarding. Trump ha citato il parere di alcuni “alti ufficiali dell’intelligence” che gli avrebbero assicurato che la tortura funziona, ma poi ha aggiunto che a riguardo si affiderà al giudizio del direttore della Cia, Mike Pompeo, e del capo del Pentagono, il generale Mattis.


Time. 2017-01-26. President Trump Says He Believes That Torture Works

(WASHINGTON) — President Donald Trump declared Wednesday he believes torture works as his administration readied a sweeping review of how America conducts the war on terror. It includes possible resumption of banned interrogation methods and reopening CIA-run “black site” prisons outside the United States.

In an interview with ABC News, Trump said he would wage war against Islamic State militants with the singular goal of keeping the U.S. safe. Asked specifically about the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, Trump cited the extremist group’s atrocities against Christians and others and said: “We have to fight fire with fire.”

Trump said he would consult with new Defense Secretary James Mattis and CIA Director Mike Pompeo before authorizing any new policy. But he said he had asked top intelligence officials in the past day: “Does torture work?”

“And the answer was yes, absolutely,” Trump said.

He added that he wants to do “everything within the bounds of what you’re allowed to do legally.”

A clip of Trump’s interview was released after The Associated Press and other news outlets obtained copies of a draft executive order being circulated within his administration.

Beyond reviewing interrogation techniques and facilities, the draft order would instruct the Pentagon to send newly captured “enemy combatants” to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, instead of closing the detention facility as President Barack Obama had wanted. Altogether, the possible changes could mark a dramatic return to how the Bush administration waged its campaign against al-Qaida and other extremist groups.

Trump spokesman Sean Spicer, questioned about the draft order, said it was “not a White House document” but would not comment further.

House Speaker Paul Ryan told MSNBC the draft order was not written by the Trump administration. “My understanding is this was written by somebody who worked on the transition before. … This is not something the Trump administration is planning on, working on,” Ryan said.

The draft says U.S. laws should be obeyed at all times and explicitly rejects “torture.” But its reconsideration of the harsh techniques banned by Obama and Congress raises questions about the definition of the word and is sure to inflame passions in the U.S. and abroad.

After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, President George W. Bush authorized a covert program that led to dozens of detainees being held in secret locations overseas and to interrogation tactics that included sleep deprivation, slapping and slamming against walls, confinement in small boxes, prolonged isolation and even death threats. Three detainees faced waterboarding. Many developed psychological problems.

While some former government leaders insist the program was effective in obtaining critical intelligence, many others say the abuses weakened America’s moral standing in the world, hurt morale among intelligence officers and proved ineffective before Obama shut it down.

The AP obtained the draft order from a U.S. official, who said it had been distributed by the White House for consultations before Trump signs it. The official wasn’t authorized to speak publicly on the matter and demanded anonymity.

The Pentagon didn’t immediately comment and Spicer, Trump’s press secretary, said, “I have no idea where it came from.” But reports of the upcoming order quickly sparked alarm among Republicans and Democrats.

“The president can sign whatever executive orders he likes. But the law is the law,” said Republican Sen. John McCain, tortured himself as a prisoner during the Vietnam War. “We are not bringing back torture in the United States of America.”

On the campaign trail, Trump spoke emphatically about toughening the U.S. approach to fighting the Islamic State group. He said he would authorize waterboarding and a “hell of a lot worse.” After winning the election, however, he appeared to backtrack, pointedly citing Mattis’ advice that torture is ineffective.

Pompeo, Trump’s CIA director, said in his confirmation hearing that he would abide by all laws. But he also said he’d consult with CIA and other government experts on whether current restrictions were an “impediment to gathering vital intelligence to protect the country or whether any rewrite of the Army Field Manual is needed.”

Specifically, Trump’s draft order calls for reinstating an executive order — “to the extent permitted” by current law — that President Bush signed in 2007 and Obama later revoked.

Trump’s draft would reverse two other executive orders of Obama’s. One called for closing Guantanamo Bay. The other ordered the CIA to shut any detention facility it operated and prohibited the U.S. from using any interrogation technique not listed in the Army Field Manual, demanding treatment in compliance with the Geneva Conventions, including timely access for the International Red Cross to all detainees.

Among the interrogation techniques banned by the manual were forced nakedness, hooding, beatings, sexual humiliation, threatening with dogs, mock executions, electric shocks, burning and waterboarding.

Any changes would face steep legal and legislative hurdles.

McCain, the Senate Armed Services Committee’s chairman, may be the most formidable opponent in Congress, but he is not the only one.

“It is wrong and I hope he will rethink it,” House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said.

On Guantanamo, the draft order says detention facilities “are a critical tool in the fight against international jihadist terrorist groups who are engaged in armed conflict with the United States, its allies and its coalition partners.” About 40 detainees remain in Guantanamo.

The document says “over 30 percent of detainees” who’ve been released have returned to armed conflict, with at least a dozen conducting attacks “against U.S. personnel or allied forces in Afghanistan.” Six Americans, including a civilian aid worker, died as a result of those attacks.

U.S. intelligence agencies say 17.6 percent of detainees released from Guantanamo are confirmed to have re-engaged in conflict. An additional 12.4 percent are “suspected” of re-engaging.

Trump pledged on the campaign trail to “load it up with some bad dudes.”

But it’s unclear who the new detainees would be. As American ground troops have stepped back this decade from the front lines in Iraq and Afghanistan, captures of high-level detainees have become much rarer, and Obama tried to direct them through the U.S. justice system.


The Telegraph. 2017-01-26. Donald Trump: Torture ‘absolutely works’, says US President in interview with ABC News: Thursday morning briefing.

Donald Trump said he believed waterboarding “absolutely” works as he said the US should fight “fire with fire” in its efforts to tackle Islamic terrorists.  

In a wide-ranging interview that covered how he felt receiving the nuclear codes to his controversial immigration policies, the US president said he would consult with James Mattis, his Defence Secretary, and Mike Pompeo, his CIA director, about what could be legally done to tackle radicalism. 

“When Isis is doing things that nobody has ever heard of since Medieval times, would I feel strongly about waterboarding…?” he said in the ABC News interview, his first since taking office.

“I have spoken with people at the highest level of intelligence and I asked them the question ‘Does it work? Does torture work?’ and the answer was ‘Yes, absolutely’.  

“I will rely on Pompeo and Mattis and my group and if they don’t want to do it that’s fine. If they do want to do it then I will work toward that end.

“I want to do everything within the bounds of what you’re allowed to do legally, but do I feel it works? Absolutely I feel it works.”

Leon Panetta, the former CIA director, said it would be a “serious mistake to take a backward step” on torture. “The reality is we really don’t need to use enhanced interrogation in order to get the information that is required,” he told the BBC.

Hours earlier, the president moved aggressively to tighten the nation’s immigration controls, signing executive actions to jumpstart construction of his promised US-Mexico border wall and cut federal grants for immigrant-protecting “sanctuary cities.” As early as Thursday, he is expected to pause the flow of all refugees to the US and indefinitely bar those fleeing war-torn Syria.

Asked if he was worried the crackdown would cause anger, he replied: “Anger? There’s plenty of anger right now. How can you have more? The world is a mess, the world is as angry as it gets. What, you think this will cause a little more anger? The world is an angry place. The world is a total mess… the world is a mess.”

To prevent the flow of refugees from Syria, he said he “will absolutely do safe zones” in the Middle Eastern country for those fleeing violence in the war-torn country,

Saying Europe had made a tremendous mistake by admitting millions of refugees from Syria and other trouble spots, Mr Trump said: “I don’t want that to happen here.”

According to a document seen by Reuters on Wednesday, the president is expected to order the Pentagon and the State Department in coming days to craft a plan for setting up the “safe zones,” a move that could risk escalation of US military involvement in Syria’s civil war.

A day before the interview, the president had repeated unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in the election, saying he would be calling for “a major investigation”.

Mr Trump has often referred to a Pew report that he says found evidence of such irregularities, but the interviewer said he had been told by the study’s author the day before that no such evidence has been found.

When pressed, Mr Trump said: “Then he’s grovelling. I always talk about the reporters, they grovel when they want to write something that you want to hear but not necessarily millions of people want to hear or have to hear.”

Talking about the first few days in office, Mr Trump admitted receiving the nuclear codes was a “very sobering moment” as well as being “very, very, very scary”, and said Barack Obama had left him a “beautiful” letter. “It was so well written, so thoughtful. It was long, it was complex, it was thoughtful,” he added.  

He also denied that the first few days had changed him in any way. “I don’t want to change too much,” he said. “I could be the most presidential person ever … but I may not be able to do the job nearly as well if I do that.”

Mr Trump was also asked what he meant when had had tweeted that he would send in the “feds” to fix Chicago.

The president didn’t specify what action he would take, but had some tough words on the city’s crime problem. “Afghanistan is not like what’s happening in Chicago,” he said. “Chicago is like a war zone. Chicago is worse than some of the people that you report and some of the places that you report about every night, in the Middle East.”

Trump orders Mexican border wall to be built and tightens immigration to US

President Donald Trump moved aggressively to tighten the nation’s immigration controls on Wednesday, signing executive actions to jumpstart construction of his promised US-Mexico border wall and cut federal grants for immigrant-protecting “sanctuary cities”. As early as Thursday, he is expected to pause the flow of all refugees to the US and indefinitely bar those fleeing war-torn Syria.

“Beginning today the United States of America gets back control of its borders,” Mr Trump declared during a visit to the Department of Homeland Security. “We are going to save lives on both sides of the border.”

The actions, less than a week into Mr Trump’s presidency, fulfilled pledges that animated his candidacy and represented a dramatic redirection of US immigration policy. They were cheered by Republicans allies in Congress, condemned by immigration advocates and triggering immediate new tension with the Mexican government.

Mr Trump is expected to wield his executive power again later this week with the directive to dam the refugee flow into the US for at least four months, in addition to the open-ended pause on Syrian arrivals.

The president’s upcoming order is also expected to suspend issuing visas for people from several predominantly Muslim countries – Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen – for at least 30 days, according to a draft executive order obtained by the Associated Press.

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